What did you think I was going to say????
As happens quite often over at the anti-Israel site, Mondoweiss,
where I hang out a lot, Phil Weiss shit-canned another of my ribald
comments. Actually, also he shit-cans a lot of my comments that are not ribald
– any comment, in fact, that tends to blow too much smoke into the Mondoweiss
The article in question was a fascinating expose’
posted by Phil of Hilary Clinton’s role in the outrageous Marc
Rich pardon on Jan20.2001, as the Clintons were going out the door of the WH.
Even more fascinating than the article were the comments, as always. What
developed in the comments section was a story of a wealthy Jewish crook being
protected by Israelis intervening with the FBIdiots and the Clintons.
My first contribution to the discussion came on Jul12.2013 at 11:14am,
Mondoweiss time. Phil let this one through. After one commenter reflected that
H.W. Bush was the only president to ever put pressure on cutting the US’s
outrageous annual pork barrel aid to Israel over the settlements, I suggested:
Ex-presidents almost always look better the farther down the timeline we
get, and I don’t think any example of that is clearer than H.W. — but
Truman and Kennedy may be counter-examples. History even seems to be giving
Bill a bye on converting the Oval Office into the Oral Office — how the
crowds loved him at the last Dem convention.
Even W is beginning to look like a Ghandi next to Peace Prize laureate
Obama. Compare W’s stand on principle in not scrubbing Scooter Libby’s
criminal record with Obama’s complete lack of principle on any issue.
Prediction: Pollard will be Obama’s Mark Rich — the Democrats’ gift
to AIPAC. Unlike Bill, Obama can deliver Pollard w/out splashing the poo on
A regular commenter "Woody Tanaka" took issue with my Oral
Office point, saying that "[m]ost people, all but the radical right wingers
in control of the GOP, knew that the Clinton sex stuff was a big, fat nothing,
ginned up by the conservatives." My response to that [which has not been
Perfect, Woody. A concise appraisal of that debacle by one of the very
Clinton apologists I was implicitly referring to.
Even if, as I suspect, that whole Oral Office event was a set up, it still
happened. The DNA made sure that neither WC nor his apologists can deny that.
Having happened, it tells us all we need to know about the creep’s morals.
The problem is that Monica over-shadowed Paula. We tend to forget that at
the time Clinton was on the griddle for having the state troopers bring Paula
Jones to his room while he was governor and trying to intimidate her into sex.
For a man with that much power over a woman’s job to pull a stunt like that,
well . . . that was more than sufficient cause for criminal charges. It was
Don’t know what happened to all the liberal fems over that whole thing.
Not a peep out of them. Imagine if it had been Reagan, Bush I, Bush II. Whew!
Later in the exchange of comments, "ToivoS" put up a link to
an absolutely dynamite Counter
Punch article by Jeffrey St. Clair demonstrating that Hil was
instrumental in the Marc Rich pardon. That St. Clair article is loaded
with enough poop on both Clintons that it could end their hopes for another long
stay at the WH.
For instance St. Clair goes into details of Rich’s ex, Denise Rich and her
friend Beth Dozoertz making a call on Bill at the WH to plead (and offer
favors?) for Marc’s pardon. My comment in response – which got axed by Phil
Oh, that St. Clair piece is beautiful, but his hour-by-hour timeline is
He says that at 5:30pm on Jan20.2001 Denise Rich and Beth Dozoretz were
admitted to the private quarters of the WH to make a last second appeal to
Clinton for Marc’s pardon. Bush was sworn in at, what?, noon on Jan20, so
Clinton could not have pardoned Rich at 5:30 pm b/c Clinton wasn’t the
president at that time, but I’m not sure what the rules are for out-going
presidents undermining the law. Maybe they have a 24 hour grace period.
But also in the next paragraph St. Clair says Clinton got a call at 2:30 am
on Jan20 from NSA advising on Rich’s international arms smuggling and
nevertheless Clinton signed the pardon, later claiming he was sleep deprived.
So this sounds like Clinton would have had to have signed the pardon hours
before 5:30 pm on Jan20 when St. Clair says the visit occurred. We always get
this line "hours before leaving office" with respect to the Rich
pardon, but I’ve never seen a precise time put on it.
St. Clair also misses a huge opening that I can’t let get by. Denise Rich
and Beth Dozoretz, beautiful, wealthy Jewish women, desperate for a favor from
Bill, meeting with him off the record and in private in the WH private
quarters. Obviously, they were desperate enough to get down on their knees and
. . . . . beg.
What did you think I was going to say?
Yeah, Phil, what did you think I was going to say?