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It is a sin to believe evil of others, 
but it is seldom a mistake.
                                              -- H.L. Mencken

~ October 23, 2014 ~

From the Views & Spews Dept.


Over at Mondoweiss the discussion over the Government of Israel (GoI) raping Palestine continues, even as the raping continues.  David Gerald Fincham put up a post today that is very much worth reading: "The hidden documents that reveal the true borders of Israel and Palestine."  

Ever since the establishment of GoI (and even before, according to Fincham), the i-Jews have insisted that they have never designated or claimed the borders of the State of Israel, as if it is possible to have a state without having borders.  One hears this crap all of the time, but particularly when GoI wants to justify stealing more Palestinian land.  Fincham relies on historical documents to show that at the time the world got behind the establishment of Israel, the borders were well defined and had been agreed to by all sides, including the i-Jews.

You might find the following comment to Fincham's article worthwhile, too.  It proposes "the last brownie solution" to dividing up Palestine between the i-Jews and Arabs:      

Denis  October 23, 2014, 4:03 pm

These historical posts and comments are, IMO, the most valuable contributions to MW. This sort of research takes a lot of effort and is appreciated, and I include talknic’s contributions when I say that.

GoI has survived largely by promoting a two-part emotional meme of 1) the miracle of Israel, which is a 2) tiny democratic country surrounded by enemies and terrorist groups. That tactic has to be countered by promoting a two-part historical reality that 1) the i-Jews stole (and are stealing) the Palestinians’ lands 2) by terrorism, duplicity, and illegal military assaults.

Most Americans automatically side with GoI because Americans have a problem getting over a very high emotional barrier created by Munich, Achille Lauro, decades of Palestinian bus and market bombings, & etc. In the past there has been no way for Americans to understand that the excesses of violence by the Palestinians in the aggregate do not come close to the terrorism inflicted by i-Jews on Palestinians right back to the early 1940’s. The Palestinian side of the historical story has been kept sub rosa by the MSM. Like, when was the last History Channel program on Irgun.

Perhaps high-volume websites like MW promoting the historical perspective of scholars like David and talknic can overcome the massive failure, if not collusion, of the MSM to get out the Palestinians’ side of the story.

A couple of comments on the post:

“And please, everyone, stop calling it the pre-1967 border: it is not a recognized border, and it did not move an inch in 1967.”

Thank you, David. I have been trying to drive that point home for years. “Green-line” or “1967 borders” – hasbara that everybody buys into and constantly re-tweets. The proper boundary recognized by the UN, the US, and every other country is the 1948 partition line and that’s what we should all be referring to. It’s also the minimum of what the Palestinians should be demanding, IMO.

“Palestine has said that, in the interests of peace, Israel can keep the land stolen in 1948-49. This is a wise decision. The stolen land is fully integrated with the rest of Israel, and this situation is irreversible. ”

I can’t agree with your soft position. Nothing that is man-made is irreversible. The fact that GoI has “fully integrated” Palestinian land means nothing about who has a moral and legal claim on it.

If your neighbor builds his garage on your backyard and “fully integrates” that part of your backyard into his property, that doesn’t constitute or justify a transfer of ownership. Now, if you ignore the problem for 20 years or so, then the doctrine of adverse possession can be used by the neighbor to acquire legal title. This is why Hamas’ hardline makes sense.

Also the “Palestine has said” clause causes me slight heartburn. Perhaps you could give us a citation of “Palestine” saying such a thing.

As for your discussion of a wider view of border negotiations — bingo! Maybe that map you base the post on ought to be completely discarded and the entire borders issue thrown wide open.

I favor the well-known last-brownie approach to settling the dispute. When kids fight over the last brownie, many moms will make one of them cut it in two, and the other one then gets first choice.

The world’s powers should force both sides of this dispute to sit down at a table with a map of the former Palestinian Mandate. One side is given a pen and a straight edge and instructed to draw a straight-line border across the map anywhere they please. The other side then chooses the part that is theirs. Such a line would almost have to run generally E-W and north of Jerusalem but south of Tel Aviv. My guess is that most i-Jews would prefer Tel Aviv and Golan to Jerusalem, the Negev, and access to the Gulf of Aqaba, and most Palestinians the opposite.

Just dreamin’ . . . The world’s powers are too stupid to take such a simple approach to the world’s most dangerous problem. Eventually, it’ll be solved by WWIII, in which case Dimona will glow for a thousand years and nobody will want the Negev — or any of it.




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